Legacy, Liberty & Laughter: Dan James & Dan Steers on Partnership, Performance & Paying It Forward
Episode Summary:
In this exciting episode, Dr. Elizabeth James is joined by both Dans of Double Dan Horsemanship—Dan James and Dan Steers—for a rare, wide-ranging conversation about their legacy, the evolution of Liberty horsemanship, and the deep bond that has fueled their partnership for nearly two decades. From the invention of the Liberty beanbag to the story behind their first horse that could sit on cue, this episode is filled with never-before-heard stories, unfiltered humor, and powerful reflections on what it means to share knowledge instead of hoard it.
You’ll also get a sneak peek at what they’re bringing to the 2025 Liberty Festival, including their new "Foundations in Freedom" concept and a long-awaited return to the U.S. performance arena—together. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to Liberty horsemanship, this episode will leave you inspired, entertained, and more than a little tempted to join us in Lexington this October.
Highlights:
- The true story behind the first-ever Liberty beanbag sit
- When everything went wrong in the arena—and how humor saved the day
- The evolution of Double Dan from performers to educators
- Why generosity is the new competitive edge in horsemanship
- What to expect from their exclusive new session at the 2025 Liberty Festival: Foundations in Freedom
Key Moments
00:02:27 The Origins of Double Dan Horsemanship
00:07:34. Early Liberty Training Experiences
00:10:44. Developing Liberty Acts at El Caballo Blanco
00:15:26. Transition from Performing to Teaching Liberty
00:35:33. Foundations in Freedom at the Liberty Festival
00:47:31. Upcoming Performances and Special Guests
00:53:13. Liberty Principles in Performance Horsemanship
00:56:57. Closing Thoughts on the Double Dan Partnership
Chapter Summaries
The Origins of Double Dan HorsemanshipDan Steers shares how he got introduced to horses at age 14 and his early experiences with liberty training. He discusses his mentor Pete Weber and his first horse Susie, who became the foundation for his liberty work.
00:07:34 Early Liberty Training Experiences - Dan Steers recounts stories of riding his mare Susie bareback and bridleless as a young trainer, including riding to the grocery store. He shares how these experiences shaped his early confidence and skills with liberty work.
00:10:44 Developing Liberty Acts at El Caballo Blanco - The Dans discuss how they started working together at El Caballo Blanco, developing their liberty acts and stunts. They recount creating signature moves like having two horses sit on a beanbag while another jumps through.
00:15:26 Transition from Performing to Teaching Liberty - The hosts explore how Dan Steers and Dan James transitioned from performing to teaching liberty clinics. They credit Heath Harris for pushing them towards teaching and helping develop a systematic approach to liberty training.
00:35:33 Foundations in Freedom at the Liberty Festival - The hosts discuss a new session at the upcoming Liberty Festival called "Foundations in Freedom," where multiple trainers will start horses at liberty over three days, demonstrating different methods for beginners.
00:47:31 Upcoming Performances and Special Guests - The Dans discuss their upcoming performance at Quarter Horse Congress and the Liberty Festival. They express excitement about special guest Frédéric Pignon attending the festival, calling him one of the greatest liberty trainers of all time.
00:53:13 Liberty Principles in Performance Horsemanship - Dan Steers shares how he applies liberty training principles to competitive performance disciplines like reining and cow horse. He discusses finding a balance between natural horsemanship philosophy and competitive success.
00:56:57 Closing Thoughts on Double Dan Partnership - The hosts reflect on the unique and enduring partnership between Dan Steers and Dan James, praising their ability to maintain a successful business and friendship across countries and life changes over many years.